Review: iriver T50 and T60

How many boxes of Toblerone chocolates do you think were involved in designing iriver’s new T50 and T60 digital audio players (DAPs)?

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I’d say at least two, one each for this pair of low-capacity flash DAPs recently released in Korea and Japan. Neither player has been officially released in the United States yet, but that doesn’t mean you can’t head over right now to Warehouse123.com to get your hands on one (or both).

System specifications

T50T60
Capacities:
1GB 1GB, 2GB, 4GB
Supported audio:
MP3, WMA, WMA-DRM, Ogg Vorbis, ASF, Audible
Extras:
Photo viewer, FM tuner, FM and voice recorder
Display: 1" CSTN LCD (128 x 64, 65K colors)
Dimensions: 2.9" x 1.2" x 1.0" 2.57" x 1.08" x 0.87"
Weight: 1.13 ounces 0.85 ounce
Power: AA battery AAA battery
Colors:
Black, white Black, white, blue

Packaging

The players are packaged simply and identically in white boxes.

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Presentation is clean if not a little boring.

Box contents

Like most iriver DAPs, the T50 and T60 are bundled with just the essentials: earphones, USB 2.0 cable, mini software CD-ROM, battery (AA for T50, AAA for T60), and quick start guide.

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I’ve never been impressed with iriver’s included accessories before, and nothing here does anything to change that. Maybe a good case is asking too much, but is it that difficult to include something as simple as a lanyard or an armband? I don’t expect to see any third-party accessory support, but I wouldn’t mind a couple of official silicone skins.

Design

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The most striking element about these prism-shaped players is their unique appearance, which is certainly not in keeping with what most of us have come to expect from modern gadgets.

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Instead of smooth and glossy-finished materials, the T50 and T60 are made of ridged, matte plastic. Build quality is good, though incredibly toy-like because of the rounded child-friendly edges and overall size. If the devices were available in primary colors, I’m sure a toddler would mistake them for chunky crayons or sidewalk chalk.

The players are far more rugged than delicate, so I imagine that they could take a fair amount of abuse.  Nothing extreme, of course, but the plastic seems strong enough to withstand being thrown into a gym bag and jostled around with a fair amount of reckless abandon.

Size

The T50 and T60 are not thin devices, so "forgetting" that either is in your pocket isn’t likely to happen. If you plan to tuck one of the players into the front pocket of your jeans, be prepared for one of those lame "is that a ____ in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" jokes.

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The unsightly pocket bulge notwithstanding, the players fit perfectly in the palm of an average-sized hand. As long as you’re not too preoccupied with thinness (it’s an unhealthy obsession, anyway), you should find the devices to be a nice size that feels natural to hold.

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The model numbers suggest otherwise, but the T50 is bigger than the T60. For me, the extra "bulk" bodes well for extended-use comfort because my fingers curve around the unit very naturally. 

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Controls

Navigation on both players is primarily handled by a small joystick on the right side of the display (not shown on the left is a built-in microphone).

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The joystick is unrestricted in its movement and easy to use, but it’s a bit wobbly. This makes selecting various options tricky because pressing the center of the joystick straight down requires actual precision.  You can’t just push the center and expect the system to recognize it as an "OK" or "Enter" command. More often than not, tapping the center of the joystick pushes it slightly to the left, which rewinds a track or takes you to the previous menu option.

Navigation would be more accurate if the joystick’s movements were limited to just four directions (up, down, left, right).

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On the backs of both players are three small buttons: play/stop, A-B, and record. Pressing and holding each button changes their functions: power on/off; EQ select (when music is playing) and add to Quick List or delete from player (when music is not playing); and play-mode select.

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A sliding hold switch and the battery compartment are on the bottoms of the players.

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I don’t know why, but the USB 2.0 ports are positioned differently on both units. On the T50, it’s on the back (next to the buttons); on the T60, it’s on the bottom (next to the hold switch). Odd.

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There’s nothing on the right side.

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Standard headphone jacks and lanyard loops are on the left.

Display

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Tiny as it is, a 1-inch 65K-color CSTN display is the focal point of both the T50 and T60. CSTN stands for color super-twist nematic, a relatively inexpensive passive-matrix LCD that offers decent viewing angles and color contrast. Image quality is not particularly sharp or noteworthy, but it’s acceptable for a screen with microscopic dimensions.

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Graphical user interface

The T50 and T60 are equipped with yet another GUI not found on any other recent iriver DAP (it’s the same one used on the older T10).

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Why does iriver keep doing this? Don’t get me wrong. All of the different interfaces are straightforward and it’s kind of fun to see what the company will come up with next (compare the S10, X20, and clix 2), but creativity at the expense of continuity and consistency isn’t always worth it.

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At this point, I just think enough is enough. It’s time for iriver to stop playing around with new GUIs, pick/create one that will complement all of its devices, and stick to it.

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It’s ridiculous for four players from the same company to be equipped with four different GUIs. It does a disservice to long-time fans of the brand and compared to Apple and Creative, who have been using the same GUI on all of their DAPs for years, iriver looks like a mess. An innovative mess, maybe, but a mess nonetheless.

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All that nonsense aside, the T50 and T60’s GUI is self-explanatory and easy to use. The main menu is colorful and cute, but the rest of the system isn’t really anything to look at.

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It’s all very file-tree and Windows Explorer: plain but functional. The T50 uses a striped background that I personally find very unappealing, while the T60 opts for a more classic look (solid green is a strange choice). Scrolling speed for long files names can be set as either "horizontal" and "vertical": both are heinous, splitting up the characters and displaying them separately.

Here’s a short video of the players in action.

Transferring content

The T50 and T60 can be formatted to support MTP or UMS/MSC for transferring media with or without the use of software. Drag-and-drop via Windows Explorer can be done in either mode, but other differences exist to make choosing between one or the other pretty crucial.

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Switching between the two modes requires the use of the supplied Cross Updater software and also deletes all of the content, so it’s easier to just choose one and stick to it forever.

You can see in the image below that I’ve chosen UMS/MSC for the T50 and MTP for the T60.

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If you’re a Mac user, you’ll want to use the default UMS/MSC mode because it’s the only one compatible with OS X. If you’re a Windows person, you can use whichever one you feel more comfortable with.

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Keep in mind that you need MSC/UMS to:

  • Use iriver plus 3
  • Supposedly playback podcasts (not sure why iriver says this, as most podcasts are in MP3 format)

And you need MTP to:

  • Use Windows Media Player 11 and other music management software
  • Playback Audible content

Audio

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Regardless of how you choose to load music onto the T50 and T60, playback and other audio options are exactly the same.

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The music list is folder-based, which is great for people who don’t keep their ID3 tags in order but slightly annoying for people who do.

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Like a lot of iriver players, on-the-go playlists are not supported but a single Quick List can be created, saved, and accessed through the main music list. Other playlists can be created on a computer and transferred to the T50 and T60.

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Files can be deleted directly from the player, which is a feature I always appreciate because having to connect a device to a computer just to get rid of a song I don’t like can be quite a hassle.

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Since neither player supports album art and the playback screens are rather dull, iriver includes three screen savers that can be set to automatically display after a specified timeframe.

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All three visualizations are nice touches that add a bit of fun to the DAPs.

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Both players are also packed with functional features such as play modes and SRS sound enhancements to enrich the audio experience.

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The 5-band custom and 10 preset EQs ensure exceptional sound quality according to my non-audiophile ears. Even with just my pair of Sennheiser CX300S IEMs, the canal phones I use with everything, I am incredibly pleased with the rich and full sound I have come to associate with iriver.

Extras

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In addition to an impressive group of customizable settings, an alarm clock, and a sleep timer, the T50 and T60 are equipped with other extras that most people wouldn’t necessarily expect from entry-level DAPs.

Photo viewer
I don’t know why anyone would want to view photos (BMPs only) on a 1-inch screen, but the capability is there. It’s a bit hidden, though, so it’s definitely a sub-sub feature.

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Photos are listed in the system’s Browser menu and are not automatically scaled for the 128 x 64 display. Again, I can’t think of why you’d want to use the T50 or T60 as a portable photo album, but if you do, it’s best to resize the images yourself first.

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There’s no slideshow feature or even a next/previous option when looking at a picture, so I think it’s better if we all just pretend this silly "photo viewer" extra doesn’t exist.

Moving on.

FM radio
I don’t think iriver knows how to make a DAP without including an FM tuner because all of the company’s players seem to have one on board.

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It’s a good one, too, with strong and clear reception, manual and automatic scanning, and lots of available preset-station slots, so if iriver doesn’t know how to make a DAP without an FM radio, I hope it isn’t something it eventually learns.

FM and voice recorder
The T50 and T60 can record directly from the radio and through their built-in microphones.

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FM recordings can be scheduled in advance and the resulting MP3 files (64kbps, 128kbps, and 256 kbps) can be used as an alarm sound.

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Voice recordings are also in MP3 format and can be saved in one of three quality settings: low (32kbps), middle (64kbps), and high (128kbps).

Battery life

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Iriver bundles the T50 and T60 with standard Duracell alkaline batteries, so I’m guessing that the former’s 52-hour and the latter’s 19-hour MP3 playback estimates are relevant to them and not some special rechargeable li-ions.

Conclusion

Priced exceptionally well by Warehouse123 at $86 (1GB T50), $64 (1GB T60), $78 (2GB T60), and $104 (4GB T60), the unconventionally designed T50 and T60 represent two more solid entrants by iriver into the low-capacity flash DAP market. Both players sound great and offer identical feature sets that include SRS audio enhancements, custom and preset EQs, FM tuner and recorder, voice recorder, and MTP and MSC/UMS compliance.

Their differences are so minor (T50 powered by AA battery vs. T60 powered by AAA battery), in fact, that iriver really shouldn’t have made both. Rather than stuff the smaller T60 with more storage capacity and shorter battery life (19 hours vs. 52 hours), iriver should’ve improved the joystick or came up with a GUI for use in all of its subsequent players.

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Jenn K. Lee

Jenn K. Lee is the founder of Pocketables. She loves gadgets the way most women love shoes and purses. The pieces in her tech wardrobe that go with everything are currently the Samsung Galaxy Note II, Sony Tablet P, and Nexus 7, but there are still a couple of vintage UMPCs/MIDs in the back of her closet.

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60 thoughts on “Review: iriver T50 and T60

  • Avatar of riseandshine
    May 31, 2007 at 8:33 am
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    Thanks for this helpful review.

    There is one disadvantage compared to older iRiver flash players: The T20 and T30 have a Line In connection for recording MP3s from other sources. Its audio quality has been described as very good in several reviews. Neither the T50 nor the T60 seems to have a Line In.

    For me, this is a dealbreaker, as I’d like to use my new DAP to digitize some old tapes (my notebook has a mediocre standard sound card which can only record in mono). Sigh, I really liked the design.

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  • Avatar of Flagone
    May 31, 2007 at 9:49 pm
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    I wish Iriver would stick with the AA design. I would buy their new player if the AA model had 4gb, or even better 8gb.

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  • Avatar of Korno
    June 3, 2007 at 9:39 am
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    Hey Jenn. I think GUI of Both T60 and T50 is the same GUI of X20 right? I know you don’t have x20 at the moment, but the icons and colors are the same, maybe it’s only the joystick way of control.

    I Don’t like them both , it’s too large for options you mentioned. I Agree with you iRiver seems like a mess, honestly i used to be iriver fan, but not anymore..

    so Jenn if I asked whats the best PMP you had ever try, what it’s gonna be? i’m talking about great display, great sound quality and it’s ok to put it in your pocket and the price isn’t a problem, i’m curious :)

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    June 6, 2007 at 9:39 pm
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    No, it’s a different GUI. It’s similar but definitely not the same. It seems that iriver makes GUIs that are exclusive to various DAP series (e.g., T series, first- and second-gen clix).

    At the moment, my favorite (and therefore what is best for me) flash-based DAP is the clix 2 and my favorite HDD-based one is the Creative Zen Vision:M.

    I think Archos makes excellent PMPs, but I’d like to give the Cowon Q5 and Zen Vision:W a try before “officially” declaring it to be the best.

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  • Avatar of Katharine
    June 11, 2007 at 11:17 pm
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    You said “I don’t think iriver knows how to make a DAP without including an FM tuner because all of the company’s players seem to have one on board.”

    But my current T30 doesn’t have radio!

    What I can’t get is why in Australia the newer T60 seems to be cheaper than the T30 per MB. I think the T30 is probably more rugged, and has line-in, but doesn’t have radio, so I can’t work it out.

    Also, I’ve read somewhere that the OS is different in Australia, I’m not sure why that would be the case.

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  • Avatar of
    June 13, 2007 at 4:50 am
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    Is it possible to rip CD music using Win 98?

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    June 14, 2007 at 1:26 am
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    @ Katharine: You’re right! I should’ve said “recent players” instead. I’ve only recently become an iriver fan (it started with the S10 late last year – the T30, I think, came out the year before that) and every player I’ve owned and/or used since then has been equipped with a radio.

    @ anonymous poster: It depends on what program you’re using. I don’t have the software at hand right now, but I think iriver plus 3’s minimum requirements are 98SE (second edition).

    There aren’t too many modern programs that are compatible with first-generation 98 anymore(including the last three versions of WMP), but I think MediaMonkey should work.

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  • Avatar of at
    June 14, 2007 at 5:43 am
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    Thank you for the reply. I ordered T50 yesterday hoping it would work with my very original Win98. I shall post my experience when I got it.

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  • Avatar of at
    June 21, 2007 at 5:59 am
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    After struggling for two hours with WIN-98SE equipped with minimum requirements,I gave up. Later I tried with WIN-ME
    of my kind friend, I started transferring CDs in 10 minutes oh-so-simply. I may challenge with WIN-98SE again when I have gotten over the current exitement with my
    wonderful T50.

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  • Avatar of Quirl
    June 24, 2007 at 10:03 am
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    Hello, a very nice review and lots of cool meaningful pics. I’ve 2 questions, though: can the equalizer/srs also be applied to the radio sound (which is rarely featured in mp3-players) and is it really true that fm recordings can be done with 256kbps (which would be simply fantastic for my needs :) )?

    Many thanks!
    Quirl

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  • Avatar of at
    June 25, 2007 at 3:23 am
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    Using Win98/SE and iRiver+3, I could transfer music to T50. The only problem is that at the PC shut down, one job always remains to be stopped. Similarly with WinME. I could safely stop USB first few times. Other times there were error messages at stopping the USB on E drive.

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  • Avatar of slave
    June 27, 2007 at 5:44 am
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    When I have song with a “long” name will all be shown on display?

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  • Avatar of John
    June 27, 2007 at 7:08 pm
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    Thanks, Jenn, for the reviews which have guided my last two purchases (Clix 2 and T60). Two things about the T60 that puzzle me: What do the letters A and D stand for on the play mode screens? Could it be Album and Directory? More importantly, I’m using MTP mode and can’t seem to call up any playlists (even though I see .pla files when browsing through Windows Explorer). Any tips on how to do this?

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  • Avatar of moanolo
    July 10, 2007 at 10:55 am
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    So, i bougth one, taking in account the many pros it has in comparation to similar price alternatives.

    Had the bad idea to test the sound against my old “NEXT” 128 mb player. (192kbps/max).

    Almost fall of my chair. The old crappy generic player, sounds better than my new T50.
    Deeper base, much more clear sound.

    is this possible? im imaginning stuff?
    Im using senheizer hd 202 headphones, no EQ, (no SRS) on both players.

    A firmware update (1.02)seems to have enhaced A BIT the sound quality, but it remains almost the same.

    Any other poster? feedback plz? need to know to return it (if i get to it), and get something else (dont care its more expensive, just need GOOD sound quality, the extras can go hell).

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  • Avatar of illuma
    July 16, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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    I have one of these (4gb) and it’s dead slow to start up (about 15 seconds) and navigate… a bit disappointing really… otherwise it would be great…

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  • Avatar of wejherowoboss
    July 25, 2007 at 5:28 am
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    This is the best T60 review I’ve ever read (And watched). Great thanks!

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  • Avatar of Phil
    August 4, 2007 at 11:42 pm
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    Great report.
    Could you please explain what the symbols in play mode mean.

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  • Avatar of Adr
    August 5, 2007 at 3:03 pm
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    Excellent report. I’m from germany and now traveling around us a bit. I can’t use any online shipping address because I’m traveling.
    I want to know where can I buy the T60 in New York or in San Diego CA.

    thanks,
    adr

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    August 5, 2007 at 11:39 pm
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    @ Quirl: No, the EQ and SRS enhancements can’t be applied to the radio. And yes, as stated in the review, FM recordings can be set to 256kbps.

    @ slave: Here’s a bit from the review that answers your question: Scrolling speed for long files names can be set as either “horizontal” and “vertical”: both are heinous, splitting up the characters and displaying them separately.

    @ John: I think A is for “all” and D is, like you suggested, for “directory.” I don’t have the players anymore, so I’m not sure why your playlists aren’t showing up. Are they transferring successfully but just not displaying on the player? Or can they not even be transferred? What program are you using?

    @ Phil: There are two main symbols, repeat (the two arrows that look like a circle) and shuffle (the squiggly thing that looks like an S), and two letters, A and D.

    Here’s the breakdown of all the play modes, using R for the repeat symbol and S for the shuffle one:

    A = Play all tracks on the player in normal order
    D = Play all tracks in the current folder in normal order
    R 1 = Play single track repeatedly
    R A = Play all tracks on the player repeatedly
    R D = Play all tracks in the current folder repeatedly
    S A = Play all tracks on the player in random order
    S D = Play all tracks in the current folder in random order
    S R A = Play all tracks on the player in random order repeatedly
    S R D = Play all tracks in the current folder in random order repeatedly

    @ Adr: Unfortunately, I don’t think either of these players are available at brick-and-mortar stores in the U.S.

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  • Avatar of Patrick
    August 9, 2007 at 1:53 am
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    I live in a place where all interesting radio stations are on AM instead of FM.

    These players with OGG support, recording and standard batteries are otherwise exactly what I’m looking for.

    What I’m hoping is that the next generation of iRiver’s chipsets will find a way of incorporating AM radio support.

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  • Avatar of Todd
    August 13, 2007 at 10:06 am
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    When “fast forwarding” or “rewinding” an individual track, is the speed constant or does it increase?

    For long tracks (like audiobooks), the ability to skip several hours into a track and to do it quickly is handy.

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  • Avatar of michael
    August 14, 2007 at 4:36 pm
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    Will the T-60 play in the states?
    Is an arm band available, if so where can it be purchased?

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  • Avatar of Xiao
    September 4, 2007 at 7:21 pm
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    Nice review.

    I currently use the T10 with 1GB memory which I got cheap as a refurbished unit (no armband though). I love it since its the only one that uses regular battery, has battery life above the 20ish hours most other ones have, and can be used in USB Mass Storage mode.

    I can personally attest to sound quality, battery life, ease of use (esp. the controls), and toughness (dropped numerous times to concrete, marble floors from chest height, not a scratch on the plastic and working perfectly.

    However 1GB seems to be a bit low after so long so I thought about checking out the new units.

    From what I could tell the T50 is just a unit with the same interface (but re-skinned), much worse control (why mess with a good thing iRiver? Why?), messed up physical design (same pocket-unfriendly bulge, but this time you can’t clip it to your pants/bag).

    Then comes the kicker: they offer 4GB on a 20ish hr unit (T60) but only 1GB on a 50ish hr unit.

    WTF are they smoking?

    I guess I’ll be keeping my T10 for a long time, or at least they got their act together.

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  • Avatar of TAMER
    September 22, 2007 at 11:01 am
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    I think t60 is a bit slow. It turns up very slow and cowon g3 is the best in this mp3 class. My friend had a t60 he sold it and going to buy a cowon g3 and me too.

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  • Avatar of
    September 24, 2007 at 12:54 am
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    T60 doesn’t recharge thru USB… its not as good as I thought… but recording is fast and almost immediate… joystick is a pain… its quite hard to press right at the center for 3 secs to jump to menu mode…. I still prefer my nano… if I don’t need recording, I wouldn’t have bought an extra mp3 player…

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  • Avatar of kkyip
    September 25, 2007 at 6:13 pm
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    I have just bought a T60 and your review has been very informative to enable me to understand my set quickly.
    However, I have a problem here. When I was playing a music file, I paused and turned off the set to answer a phone call. I could afterwards resume where I stopped (as I have set for Resume on in the setting).
    However, when I played the FM recording file, I could not resume where I stopped. Would you please advise me how to set to resume when playing FM recording files? Many thanks again

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  • Avatar of David
    October 5, 2007 at 7:29 pm
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    I have an iRiver T30 1gb (yes it has a radio!) and I love it. When I saw online there was a T60 with 4gb I started to get excited. Then I read the review and now I think I am hanging on to my T30. The controls on the T50/60 are not great. It looks like they tried to meld the T30 and those other joystick type players together which I dont like. It also seems the older joystick players had better joysticks! Also no line in on these guys. And it seems Best buy or Circuit City (where I got mine) don’t carry iRiver anymore. Dont know whats up with that. Ok well thanks for a great review and will wait and see what happens next. . . .

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  • Avatar of Danny
    October 14, 2007 at 6:41 pm
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    The T60 is a cool player, but too bad there’s no bookmark function. For many who enjoy listening to podcasts and audio books, the bookmark function is a must. 4GB is a good size for storing loads of podcasts, but this player is crippled in this department. Shame.

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  • Avatar of Andrei M
    November 2, 2007 at 5:47 am
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    S A = Play all tracks on the player in random order
    S R D = Play all tracks in the current folder in random order repeatedly

    What’s the difference between these two? I do not see any. Is shuffle function any good? I’ve seen many players which, on shuffle mode started, to repeat songs after a (relativly short) while…

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  • Avatar of Andrei M
    November 2, 2007 at 5:48 am
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    S R A = Play all tracks on the player in random order repeatedly

    Sorry, the second one was this :)

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    November 2, 2007 at 2:20 pm
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    @ Andrei: The difference is that SRA will play all of the tracks repeatedly. SA will only play each track once.

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  • Avatar of Ok
    November 2, 2007 at 10:43 pm
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    According to this report
    (see the sample files attached to the fourth message), the T60 adds noise to the audio when the equalizer and screen are off. This mode would be of most interest both to those who want to prolong their battery life and to serious music listeners who want the clearest sound. This is a serious flaw that makes the T60 unsuitable for many potential listeners.

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  • Avatar of Andrei M
    November 5, 2007 at 2:45 am
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    Aha… so SA will play songs in random order, but once played, a track will not be played again… until… when?

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    November 5, 2007 at 2:35 pm
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    It will never be played again under that play mode unless you restart the cycle. For example, let’s say you have 100 songs on your player. If you select SA mode, each of those 100 songs will play back once in random order. Once all 100 songs have been played, playback stops completely. If you want to hear all the songs in random order again, you need to manually hit play to restart the 100-song random cycle.

    Under SRA mode, those same 100 songs will play in random order until the battery on the player dies. You will hear the same 100 songs again and again and again and again with no action required from you.

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  • Avatar of ivan
    November 20, 2007 at 11:15 am
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    Hi.Can anyone help with the following?I have a T60 player.I ve ripped my cds and put songs into the player,but the thing is that my player doesnt play songs,which are apparently in there but it only supports 1000 files and everything which is above that limit just wont play.I can not even listen to my recordings from radio!And my memory is just about the half way full and it is sensless to put in there any more stuff because it simply wont work.My question is:if it could help to change the firmware to make it play more files?thanks

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  • Avatar of Andrey
    November 23, 2007 at 3:53 pm
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    Thank you for the very nice review! After reading I went straight ahead to the seller you bought them from and got my T60 2G. (I am in Canada)
    And I am totally happy with my purchase! Dream came true. Browser navigator in this player is amazing. Just copy your mp3 folders to the player in windows explorer an that is it! – Keeps data structure as simple and convenient as it could be. Player does support cyrillic letters in tags. (It also has a menu item to set any of many languages but this doesn’t work for me for some reason.) Player can record from radio, player can record voice. It can fall asleep after you and wake you up in the morning( on weekdays, and would not disturb you on weekends if you wish). Default equalizer settings suck for me but set them flat and good sound is right with you.
    Unfortunate thing is that warehouse123.com doesn’t sell T50 anymore. Neither
    does iriveramerica.com I wish they were, because I really want to get me second more practical iriver with AA battery. This one is anyway almost always in my wife’s hands.. :)
    Does anybody know a good online shop that would sell this stuff (T50) to Canada?

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  • Avatar of Jenn
    November 26, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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    @ ivan: I don’t have the T50 or T60 anymore, so I haven’t been following the firmware release history. If the latest firmware adds support for more than 1000 files, then updating your player will of course fix the issue. If the release notes don’t indicate that such a feature has been added and/or users haven’t reported or can’t confirm it, then upgrading the firmware won’t. My only suggestion is to look into the firmware history, upgrade if it seems promising, and hope for the best.

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  • Avatar of Reuben
    December 9, 2007 at 6:13 am
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    I like to fall asleep listening to music. Does either the T50 or T60 have automatic shut off? Does either have a jack for an AC adapter?
    Thank you.

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  • Avatar of ohbdibvdifb
    December 24, 2007 at 3:40 pm
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    Reuben,
    The T60 has a “sleep timer” that lets you set the player to play from 5 to 180 minutes before shutting off. I presume that the T50 also has feature, as even my old Iriver IFP-3xx had it.

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  • Avatar of rotarud
    January 14, 2008 at 5:27 pm
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    between T60 and the creative zen V wich one has better sound quality ??

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  • Avatar of Rachael
    January 15, 2008 at 9:06 am
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    I don’t understand the MTP or UMS/MSC thing. I recently bought a T60 and downloaded some songs using WMP11. I then discovered that I couldn’t download playlists (all the songs went into the music folder), so I downloaded a playlist from IRiverPlus3. They both seem to work – am I doing something wrong?

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  • Avatar of cliona
    February 22, 2008 at 12:57 am
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    With my old ifp 899 i could take the voice recordings and put them on my PC and save them as mp3 files. I can’t find a way of doing this on the t60 as the voice folder doesn’t appear in the plus 3 software. should I be supposed to see this.

    I have to say the documentation was very disappointing.

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  • Avatar of dave
    February 28, 2008 at 6:44 am
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    Is the joystick any more problematic than the one used in the iriver ifp 800 series?
    Is the startup time based on the memory capacity, or memory used? Or battery strength? Someone posted their 4-GB model took 15-20 seconds to start. What is the startup time for the 2-GB model? My old ifp 899 1-Gb (filled) only takes 2-3 seconds to open.

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  • Avatar of peter
    March 7, 2008 at 1:03 pm
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    My T60 performs very well. FM radio does not sound like stereo however??
    I have a sony walkman that has small switch to enable hearing FM broadcasts in stereo. The music is so much richer. Do any MP3 flash players feature FM radio in stereo?

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  • Avatar of Quirl
    March 8, 2008 at 3:38 pm
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    peter, did you force mono reception? you can switch between stereo and mono with the play/stop button. Also be sure not to use headphones with a short cable. Stereo-FM-Reception on my T60 is very good.

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  • Avatar of Bill
    March 14, 2008 at 12:26 pm
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    I have been using the T10 2GB for quite a while, but am thinking that 4GB would better suit my needs. I’m very sorry to hear that iriver may have messed up what I think is a great little player. The sound is great and controls are very good, once you are used to them you don’t have to look… (Joy stick is not at all sloppy). It is rugged for travel, and the built in clip is handy…you can clip on a belt loop, hook on a rubber band on gym equipment or many other places depending on your imagination. Fm radio gets good reception. I guess I’ll wait to see if iriver is listening to comments and puts out a new model reflecting consumer comments…

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  • Avatar of Nikc
    March 25, 2008 at 11:17 pm
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    Hi everybody,

    one question related to T60.

    Something is happening what I inserted rechargeable battery.
    I have an Hahnel 1000mh, 1.25V rechargeable battery.
    Even the battery is fully charged, the T60 battery level meter is showing only one line.
    Does someone experienced the same situation?

    Thanks.

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  • Avatar of Kostas
    March 31, 2008 at 9:00 pm
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    Hi people,

    I’ve just bought a T60 4GB player. I was thinking of buying a Trekstor i.organix with 4GB.. only because of the OGG Vorbis support, but I found accidently the iriver player and bought it, it’s on the way to me. Once I receive it I will comments on the audio quality fm quality and all the sorts. I mainly use OGG music files with 64kbps Quality encode(0.00) which in my ears it’s the same as 128kbps mp3 (I don’t think more than 128kbps cbr mp3 is needed, only waste of space heheh). The player is comming from us and I live in the U.K. so expect some delay..

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  • Avatar of Kostas
    April 10, 2008 at 4:23 am
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    The player is very good, it plays smooth my 64kbps ogg vorbis files, there isn’t any problem that I read somewhere on the internet, that if you put in lot of folders it has problems, didn’t see such thing.4-5 folders and it’s ok. About the 1000 songs limit, I really don’t know.. I didn’t fill it up so much.. yet. The sound is the same either the screen is on or off (at least to my ears) ..this because someone said that there is a difference when the screen is off. I have it one day now and I didn’t find any problem

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  • Avatar of anne
    April 17, 2008 at 5:35 am
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    hi!!!i’ve just bought a iriver t5o…i bought it last month can you help me how to apload song here…because i only know how to apload songs in mp3 using ipod…can somebody help me or teach me how to appload song in my iriver?please help if you wanna help just post a comment here…thank you

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  • Avatar of BDL
    May 16, 2008 at 4:29 pm
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    Battery life sucks on the T60. At night, with a brand new battery, I let the player record Loveline (2 hours). It only gets about 45 mins before it stops recording and goes dead. and this is on the lowest quality

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  • Avatar of Ray
    October 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm
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    Hello!

    I need your help. there’re so many mp3 player in choice. i don’t know how to deal.

    but i need longplay life, convenient control and sound quality. which player do u advise me. (how about t50, t60 or iriver ifp-899)?

    thanks a lot

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  • Avatar of Johanna
    November 5, 2008 at 7:38 am
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    Hi, thank’s for good review. Perhaps you could give me some advice? I bought a T60 (white) second-hand, without manual. How do I do to start the voice recorder? The display shows “Ready to Record” but I don’t know how to start recording…
    Johanna

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  • Avatar of fon Bomber
    November 18, 2008 at 9:43 pm
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    Hi all! I’m from Ukraine, and buy this device 3 weeks ago! Great player – clear and powerfull sound, usefull menu, useful joystic. Before it i use Creative e140 – good to, but Iriva’ :-) better

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  • Avatar of ajk
    April 5, 2009 at 9:39 am
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    I lost my manual for T60, and can’t find one on-line. How do I get into record mode? I want to record voice (a lecture). Thank you!

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