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Why I rooted my HTC EVO 4G and EVO 3D (and why you might want to root yours too)

Just a few of the root appsWhy would you take your phone, a device that cost a few hundred dollars, and void its warranty by rooting it? It's a question that a lot of unrooted people ask and is not an easy all-encompassing answer.

When I got the HTC EVO 4G last year, I got a phone that had HDMI-out and was touted as being capable of wired and wireless tethering. It advertised ~6 hour talk time and a battery capable of holding a 1200mAh charge to supply that. I wanted to watch movies played from my phone on the TV, the ability to use my Unlimited Data plan to connect my laptop for a minute or two, enough juice to not worry about power all the time, and of course make some calls too. The 8GB SD card meant I could install tons of apps. The EVO also came with 4G, a revolutionary high speed wireless network.

I purchased the EVO 4G, but I didn't get what I expected.

The HDMI-out was locked so that only YouTube and the HTC Pictures application could use it, my Unlimited Data Plan limited what sorts of data I could use, and my battery would charge up to ~85% of total capacity while reporting that it was at 100. When I'd unplug I'd be down in the 90s within 15 minutes; I own four chargers. My office is also a Sprint dead zone (not my building mind you, just my office) and there's no option to force roam. The 8GB SD card could be used for some applications, but most at the time were either preinstalled by Sprint and would not let me remove them, or could not be moved to the card; my internal memory filled way too quickly. And 4G coverage is sort of a joke, even in towns with 4G.

In other words, I had half the phone I purchased.

It's not a failing of the HTC EVO 4G. It's the carrier. And it's not just our carrier that's doing it, it's just the one we experience. Sprint did not want to risk lawsuits from the MPAA when someone showed a movie on an EVO on a TV. They did not want to be an ISP and handle complaints when someone moved 600GB of pirated data over 3G via wireless tether in a month. They wanted to make a buck or two more per person by forcing demo software onto the phone. They don't want someone selecting "roam only" and getting good phone service but racking up roaming hours, and honestly the 4G experiment was a failure, or perhaps it was the building blocks of the LTE network; either way it really isn't there when you need it.

I tried all the battery tricks. I did the plug in plug out hokey pokey (bump charging), I tried the task killers, I bought battery management applications, and I probably got 20 more minutes out of all of this (and $5-10 worth of software).

So I rooted my phone.

I wasn't mad at Sprint. I understand the business of dealing with the masses. You can't please everyone, but honestly this wasn't pleasing me at all. I had this great piece of hardware, faster and better designed than anything on the market at the time, and it was junk for my purposes.

From the outside, I viewed the root world as a scary place full of outdated and useless information, a bunch of people who thought they were hot stuff for managing to make a battery icon actually show how much life it had. I thought it was a group of arrogant folks who thought "oh, they don't want us poking around with this? Well there." And I was worried that my warranty would be voided.

The first part of that is true . There is more old, useless, and damaging information out there than you can imagine. For every root method discovered, HTC patches it in the next release. Places do not seem to take great efforts to remove the old information, and even somewhat maintained pages of developers don't advertise that their programs no longer work. There are several sites out there that copy these pages repeatedly and post it as new content to get advertiser revenue. There are several people who refer others based on blind google searches. It's a nightmare of bad information.

The second part is mostly false. There are a couple of people I have run across who fit that bill, but most people see a need and make a solution, or they see a restriction that's hurting people and make a hole. I cannot stress how much interaction I have had with developers in the past year. Most recently I reported an issue with a piece of software, provided the author with most of the information he needed, and when I looked at my email again the program was fixed and a new version was out.

The third part is true. I finally found someone who got tagged by a Sprint repair place for having a rooted phone (obviously the custom font he was using somehow managed to leap up and break his power button). He left, unrooted the phone, and got the warranty repair on the bad switch.

I did the scariest thing I have ever done with my phone at the time. I rooted it with Unrevoked (site still there, root exploit for the most part no longer applicable to EVO line). I installed SuperUser, I purchased Titanium Backup (current, but the support vanished for several months), and I froze bloatware wherever I could. I also used Titanium Backup to force some of the unmovable apps off to the SD card where they ran fine. I had a much faster phone all of the sudden.

I downloaded Sprint Lovers ROM for the HTC EVO 4G, installed a new Netarchy Toastmod kernel (discontinued for the EVO 4G), and purchased SetCPU to experience the battery saving wonders of underclocking. I had battery life 20-40% better than what I had before. I installed an SBC kernel and suddenly I had another two hours of battery life as the thing would actually charge completely.

I was worried a few times that I had bricked my EVO. Back then, nobody had written up anything useful on how to prevent that (or if they did, I couldn't find it amid all the outdated sites and landslide of info).

Competing projects between a couple of different software groups managed to make two excellent HDMI apps for the EVO 4G. I could finally watch my movies and TV shows, or play Angry Birds on a big screen.

There's also a force-roam mod out there (I'm not going to link to it as it could get you terminated from Sprint). I went a different route and got GrooveIP for when I'm at my office. While I don't think GrooveIP is a root app, it is how I had to overcome my office being cell-shielded. More recently I went Google Voice and have my work phone ring when I'm at the office.

I was still dealing a bit with the limitations of Android program storage, so I slapped in Darktremor's A2SD and suddenly had a gig more program space.

For work, I installed WiFi Tether for root. I think I've used it a total of two times in a year: once so I could send an email using a keyboard (and not trying to Swype out a 500-word essay), and once to provide my Little Brother with WiFi for his laptop while we drove to a Big Brother outing. While I would love to get on my high horse and point out that the EVO 4G specs and manual said tethering is included as part of the OS, that Sprint is advertising Unlimited Data and no definition of "unlimited" means "limited," this is not a moral fight I feel like espousing while I'm writing this. Short of it is there might have come a time when I needed WiFi tethering; had I purchased Sprint's WiFi hotspot access, I'd be in the hole $400 now for about an hour of use.

Along the way, I discovered things I didn't even know were benefits of rooting when I started. You know that sleek OS that other phone has? Chances are it will be ported over to your phone in a week or two. Did you know you can play old video games using emulator roms and a wiimote? (You can play the games unrooted, but root was generally required for wiimote.)

So there's that. That's why I rooted, and I got the phone I was sold and then some. There was really no reason to upgrade for me, but I jumped at the HTC EVO 3D the instant my favorite ROM's author released a ROM for it. I stayed stock for 2 or 3 days and then rooted/unlocked the 3D and moved back into the root world.

How support works for unrooted phones

So, you're having a problem with your phone. You've got a certain set of steps that reproduce a problem. What do you do? Maybe dial Sprint up, talk to a support tech, or take it into the store and see if they can figure it out. Accept the solution they offer you to hard wipe the thing and come home with a phone that is probably just waiting to pull that same stuff again. If you can reproduce the problem, Sprint will probably take it seriously and contact the developers of that particular part of the phone. After enough tickets and the development company finding the issue, they may fix it if they have a support contract still, or you know, maybe not. But let's assume they will fix it.

If a particular program author/department fixes the problem, the corrected code can get into the build pool for the phone's ROM fairly quickly. But then it sits there waiting to go out in an OTA. These OTAs generally come out once every couple of months, and they roll out in waves. Your friends may have the update weeks before you manage to get it.

But finally, your problem is fixed. Turnaround time of a few weeks.

How support works for rooted phone

While not always the case, it's gone like this for me except when someone's been on vacation or having a baby.

You have problem that you can reproduce. You go to the program/ROM author's forum or website, post the issue, and perhaps answer a few questions. Others users will be there for you, and usually the author will chime in if they users don't get it solved. Done.

The longest issue I had with a rooted application lasted four days. The fastest fix to a program I and one other person was having an issue with was five hours. Your mileage, of course, will vary.

How security issues are solved: Unrooted vs. rooted

If you've not been keeping up with the Carrier IQ fiasco, here's a quick recap. In early August, a developer informs HTC of a problem with Carrier IQ logging everything. On September 1st, we reported more issues and the first custom ROMs and kernels were already out that disabled CIQ. A few days later, HTC responds to issues saying there's nothing to see here and that nothing can happen. By September 5th, most of the major Sense-based ROMs have CIQ removed.

At this point, a developer contacted HTC and told them about even more problems. They didn't respond. After weeks of waiting, on October 3rd a proof of concept app was made public that showed any app whatsoever without any special permissions could get enough any information to screw you over. On October 26th, 2011, 65 days after the issue was reported and a huge stink was raised by the root community, fixes for Carrier IQ are starting to roll out.

In the root world, there have been fixes since about 5 days after and nearly a year if you count AOSP ROMs.

Closing rants

Do you know what it's like to talk to the author of your favorite ROM, to have a fix in hours to a problem, and to have a bunch of people who just want our phones to work, be safe, and be really neat? If you're rooted, chances are you do.

Rooting can be frustrating. Being unrooted can be frustrating. It's a balancing act. A friend of mine needed a feature that the next big phone had, so I asked if he wanted to purchase that or violate his warranty. He went with violating his warranty and was happy. His camera broke (rooting process caused someone to drop it, shattering the lens), he took his rooted phone in, and go it replaced with no questions asked.

Whatever you decide is right for your EVO, most people who are rooted are not looking down on you for not rooting. They just want you to join the fun, and perhaps to stay the hell away from iOS or something.

Also, don't root to abuse your carrier; that doesn't work. They'll terminate your contract if you try hard enough.

When I got the EVO 3D, I told the store I wrote for G&E and that I was going to violate my warranty in a week. He said he looked forward to reading it. I was wrong: it was four days (and if you're reading this, you promised you'd email me the receipt for the phone).

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70 thoughts on “Why I rooted my HTC EVO 4G and EVO 3D (and why you might want to root yours too)

  • Good synopsis for those on the fence… The only thing I’d add is that rooting isn’t for the lazy, if you’re not willing to do some research and some reading then a) you’re far more likely to run into problems b) you’re also far more likely to run into an ashole that has seen your question asked and answered a million times before. Rooting isn’t for everyone, custom ROMs even less, and hand holding people thru it sometimes has the opposite effect, they don’t learn anything, but the devs at places like XDA do carry out some amazing work that’s worth a ton of praise.

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  • Avatar of robisthename

    This was a great article and is why I return to G&E on a regular basis. Continue the good work, and thanks for solving my problems, answering my questions, and help to make my phone user experience better day by day.

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  • Avatar of Fabian

    What’s your take on the htcdev unlock, do you think even if you return to stock your phone will be permanently marked in the database as void of warranty?

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  • I don’t know, I think we’re going to have to get a sprint tech to give us the run down on the screening for these things…

    It took me a pretty long time to run across someone who had gotten a “you’re rooted, no fix for you”. I sort of have the idea that Sprint could fairly easily detect who is rooted if and when they want though without HTC sending information over to Sprint.

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  • Avatar of scruff24

    I appreciate the article as well. I have been one of those on the fence. And a few days ago purchsed the charging cradle/hdmi dock from my local Sprint store. Thinking all I had to do was plug in and sit back and watch Sprint Tv on a bigger screen. Boy was I wrong. After messing w/ it for about 10 minutes…and reading the manual for the phone and the cradle….gave up…went to g&e to find the answer. While it wasn’t a clear cut answer from the start. I did find that it is in fact possible to do it. But, I have to root it first. So, I copied several links from the g&e site…and emailed them home…to work on it later. This article along with the ones I found re-inforce that if I want to be happy w/ the phones features I THOUGHT were there and going to work. Will actually work. Still under warranty…but seriously considering going down the Root path this weekend. As someone who doesn’t want to brick their phone…it is still under warranty….I am just a little nervous about which is the best for my use. (Want to be able to use HDMI, Wifi, have the 3d menu that was shown here about a month ago, etc.) Not sure exactly which is the most reliable, safest Root out there for that.
    If you have taken the time to read this…I have registered for the website forum page under the same name scruff24 if you care to pm me. Thank you in advance for your help.

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  • Avatar of thomas

    i REALLY wanna root my evo, but im too chicken shit to do it. im not %100 phone savvy and im worried about ruining my phone. i wish someone would do it for me and just install everything i need.

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  • Where’re you at? Maybe a savvy reader is around…. or perhaps internet serial killer… but more likely a root-savvy reader

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  • I finally learned how to Root from G and E… I was kind of like thomas (above in this thread), but if you look at the tutorial on this site (how to get s-off on Gingerbread), you can’t lose.

    I agree that the ROM builders are really responsive and if a clown like me didn’t brick their phone, neither will I.

    I noticed that I no longer want for phone space b/c I can move any app and delete. The phone is faster too. boot time < 60 seconds Not being an expert....I do, however usually use a ROM that's a few versions old. I use SNS which was talked about in this forum I had to get a new phone from sprint and it was a bit of an issue since on the SNS rom the font is different...next time I'll just reflash the old sense ROM better. Glad that I was able to get a new EVO instead of some other model. HTC saying carrierIQ/htc loggers was nothing to see = Apple's "you're holding the phone wrong" I LOVE the EVO, but based on all the security holes my next phone will be from someone else. BTW, free wifi tether is one of the best parts of Rooting.

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  • Avatar of biker1

    Great article, and nice artwork!
    I rooted to get wifi tether, when needed, battery percentage when I first rooted, then CM7.
    The

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  • I was nervous to do it at first as well, but after a while I got bored with the stock phone and I went for it. Trust me, I’m not the most tech savvy person either. But do a lot of reading on the XDA site and you will find out everything you need from step by step directions to video tutorials. I’ve successfully rooted my 4g and 3d with help from that site and its been totally worth it.

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  • Avatar of James EVO OG

    stop being a chicken and just do it!! Trust me its not hard at all. Read Read Read and READ again – that’s it lol

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  • Avatar of Fabian

    so many guides out there, some with videos, and some with step by step guides. I use the ones over at XDA-developers. Trust me its pretty simple if you follow the steps as they are written.

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  • Avatar of Fabian

    Ya, the deal with root provided by developers is easier to deal with because you can always revert back easily to S-ON but having your phone registered as rooted on the HTC database could be more of a challenge. Who knows, maybe I’ll just dive in and try it, looking like another way of rooting 1.50 is not coming anytime soon.

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  • Avatar of yuletide7

    I’m a noob and did mine yesterday. I was tired of all the Sprint crap and slow phone. I’m still running a stock ROM for now with the new security ota that g&e posted yesterday. All in all, a few snags but no harm done with thanks to the forum. What Evo do you have thomas?

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  • Avatar of strat

    The only reason anyone should be scared of rooting is if they’re not good at following line-by-line instructions.

    If you can read and follow directions, rooting will never be “hard”

    I’ve never seen a root method that didn’t have at least 10 guides with every step down to “Plug your phone into the computer” and other seemingly obvious things

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  • Avatar of Stormer

    the only reason I rooted was for wireless tether. I travel maybe a total of 2 weeks out of a year and I simply can’t fathom paying 30.00/month to tether when it is just so sporadic. Plus it’s kind of cool driving down the road with gps navigation on, one kid in the back using a chromebook connected to my phone doing homework and in the “car behind me” my daughter was getting 2 bars on her little netbook doing her home work in the back seat. (wife driving other car) That was pretty amazing! Anyway, I rooted to be able to do that and not have to deal with hotel free wifi paranoia. The vast majority of the time I am on wifi at my home office. I’m running swagged out stock. Looks the same, runs faster, tether works.

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  • So here is a question , what is out there to do if I root my EVO 3d? I mean what benefits I can get except of tethering ?

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  • Can you point me to the HDMI mirroring apps you referenced? I found one that won’t work with GB. Has there been a fix yet? Thanks!

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  • Teamwin’s HDMWIN was the one I was using on VPGP 0.2.2, looks like there’s some issue with it and stock… there was another, but I do not see it in the market at the moment.

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  • better memory management, GPU acceleration enabled, tethering, nandroids, add any new kernels, DT a2SD ability, ext4 support, ability to flash new roms, boot screens, patches, mods, etc.

    Basically near total control of your phone.

    One thing I’m noting, and I can’t promise this is true, but it appears the dual-cpus that the e3d has are not being utilized with the stock kernel… looks like it’s only using 2 when doing 3d, which is a waste.

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  • Thanks for the quick reply, Paul. That’s the only one I found as well, and it does not work on 2.3.3. Oh, well, I can hope…

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  • Avatar of Damon M.

    I rooted my phone about 2 months ago. I’m not going to lie and say I did it in 30 minutes…It took all night. I experimented with a couple of ROMs but my fave has got to be MikG. Thank you for the article this is the reason why I rooted.

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  • Could you write an article about SD memory. For example what is ext4 support and why do I want it. Also would like to know a little more about a2SD. Do all ROMS support it, or only certain ones? I have a 4G and hate the internal memory litmitations.

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  • I will in a few days, have a couple of ones I have to get written first, and back to back Halloween parties going on till Monday.

    SD memory is all about the class… class=speed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating
    Beyond that there’s not much to know except some brands fail more than other.

    DT A2SD is a script that causes all programs to install to the SD card in an EXT2/3/4 partition. Not all ROMs support it, and at the moment it’s pretty much not needed on the EVO 3D (it will be soon enough).

    EXT is a file system like FAT32 (which your SD card is formatted in) – EXT 3 & 4 use a method of journaling – basically they write that a write was made and this or that operation was going to be committed. Basically it’s a more reliable file system than fat32.

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  • Most useful thing….being able to reload easily and get a clean install-like setup in a fraction of the time it would take from a real factory reset.
    I like the roms being sucked of useless garbage too. Cleanrom is nice and simple.
    Also, having a battery % is a stupid, but nice thing.
    Installing go launcher takes care of a lot of the sense garbage though…and needs no root.

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  • Avatar of biker1

    Free up internal memory, run a non Sense ROM (ASOP)which freed up memory,
    etc.
    And get Developer Support, above and beyond the support, or lack of, from Sprint and HTC.
    And that’s just a few of the benefits.
    Getting the Most out of what my device was capable of, and More!

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  • Great article, very informative. In light of these security issues, memory issues and unsatisfactory battery life. I think I am finally ready to take the rooted plunge.

    My biggest concern is unrooting my phone in order to use my repair/replacement insurance. I am not necessarily new to “rooting”, I used to mod my “HTC Touch pro 2” to different roms. It was a pretty easy one button press methods but I don’t know how similar it is to a HTC Android device.

    Wondering if anyone had any recommendations on what I should be searching for or looking for to gather information from the xda site. If I root do I have to mod? Do I gain anything by just rooting? Do the roms enable the use of wifi, memory storage increase, addressed security issues and increase battery life/gauging. I do like sense and was hoping for a rom that might have the newest sense update. Also I’m looking for stability.

    When I search on xda, I don’t want to be going of outdated information similar to my discovery that unrevoked doesn’t work anymore. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it.

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  • Going to be a bit short, having a day… I just unrooted my HTC EVO 4G for a piece I’m doing – I did this: http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g.html

    But, there are much newer RUUs out there you can flash. I needed to go back to Froyo and move on back.

    If you just root, you can freeze bloatware. You can also change out to a better kernel and get slightly better battery management without having to change anything visual. You’ll get better battery life as long as you’re not overclocking.

    Flashing a whole new ROM such as Cyanogen or Vaelpak’s GB will probably get you a lot better life.

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  • Avatar of Bryan

    Thank you for the quick response.

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  • I’ve had problems with phones a lot. This evo has already been master reset due to issues with it freezing and not allowing me to text. My concern about rooting is what will happen if something like that happens again. If I am voiding my warranty, what will I do if it gives me trouble again? I also don’t know what all of the acronyms stand for. (like ROM, ext4, etc) I’m concerned that I won’t know what to get and what it will cost will be too much for me to spend. Tips?

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  • Up top nav bar should be a thing that says “glossary” will give you the basics of what is what.

    A master reset, well, you could have done that yourself… that’s a couple of button presses. basically they cleared your user data on the assumption that something had gone wrong.

    You took your phone in because it had a software issue with the stock software, the ROM that shipped with it, which is the first thing most people who root throw out.

    Basically just at some point you decide if you’re willing to learn how to root / unroot and whether you think that you could get into a situation where you couldn’t un-root it.

    There are no 1-click methods at the moment to root and unroot, it does take some reading, but we have most of the methods listed how to on G&E including a EVO ROOT tab which is still a bit under development.

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    I have an EVO 4G flashed to work with Boost Mobile. Can I root the phone without damage that flash?

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  • As I understand it you can, and you’re probably already S-OFF. I am not an expert on this particular thing,so you might want to go over to forums.xda-developers.com and look in the evo 4g section as people there have a couple of boost threads.

    I think your phone is already unlocked and potentially rooted though – check and see if you have an application called Superuser – if so, probably rooted..

    My guess is you would only need to install the superuser binary as I assume they put a custom recovery on to flash the radios to Boost..

    But, check on superuser, get back to me if you would, would be interested to know if 1) you’re s-off (assume so) 2) you have a custom recovery installed (power off, the powen on with vol down+power, select recovery) 3) you have superuser installed (which seems like they would if they were going to s-off your phone)

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    Thanks for your answer Paul,

    I went to config, applications, manage applications and did not saw any called Superuser (don’t know if I’m looking in the right place, I’m new to this) I will try that power on pressing the volume as soon as I get home.

    I know I cannot uninstall some applications that were already in the phone, so I supposed the phone was not rooted. Also I’m not able to tether, not even to find PdaNet in the Market. That will be my main reason for rooting, I moved recently and no company is providing Internet access in this area, my only option will be a 4g mifi, but I read the connectivity is bad and for me the prices are too high.

    I started to think about this yesterday and your article was the first I read, I will read more, but first wanted to know if it is possible.

    Thanks again for your answer.

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  • Not at a computer, but look up clockworkmod tether in the market. Might work for you without rooting.

    Sent from my Infected HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    I already tried Clockworkmod tether, I can connect the pc to the phone, but in the pc I get a little yellow icon with an exclamation sign and I don’t get Internet connection. I also tried opening the browser, cause I read sometimes you do have Internet connection even with that sign, but not in my case. I also disable windows firewall with no luck.

    By the way I tried power on the phone with volume down pressed and nothing happened.

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    You won’t find several tether apps in the market – they’ve been blocked by the carriers – I’m assuming your phone reports Sprint to the Market regardless of carrier. You can usually find them by a google search – Wireless Tether for Root is a good one.Should be possible, if you’re not able to get into bootloader/recovery by pressing vol-down+power while the thing is off, you need to turn off fastboot (menu, settings, power, fastboot I think) – rooted or not, should always be able to get there. Get into bootloader, launch recovery, hopefully it will say clockworkmod, amon ra, twrp or something. If it doesn’t, we’ll need to look at what  the process was to get it to that state (don’t want to risk breaking the thing)Way too late here, going to bed, back around later

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    I’m sorry I didn’t answer before, still organizing things in the new house. You were right about Fastboot, took me a while to find where to turn it off because in my phone the option is under Applications, Power is not an option in Settings. It seems that I have a real old Sense.

    I was able to go into bootloader but I stoped there. My wife’s phone broke last week and now this one is our only connection. I wanted to confirm with you first. You told me to launch Recovery. That is not going to change anything in the phone? What should I look for?

    This it’s what I saw when I went into bootloader:
    ***LOCKED(OOW)***
    SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-ON
    HBOOT-2.18.0001
    MICROP-041F
    TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224-16AB
    RADIO-2.15.00.12.19
    DEC 21 2011, 12:50:32
    HBOOT
    FASTBOOT
    RECOVERY
    CLEAR STORAGE
    SIM LOCK
    HBOOT USB

    Also, I am going to buy another phone for my wife and wanted to ask you which one you like more a 3D or the 4G.

    Thank you very much four your time, is good to have a helping hand in this.

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  • ok, you’re not unlocked and not rooted, but you were unlocked before evidently. This means you are at a point I do not know why they relocked the boootloader.

    I’m afraid I can’t give you advice and be certain about it – I’v never dealt with phones on Boost, I don’t know why the locked/s-on status for it.

    My assumption is you could htcdev unlock, install superuser binary, install superuser and be fine, but I don’t want to run the risk of bricking your phone.

    I do not believe G&E has any resident Boost Mobile writers/readers, so might want to check out xda-developers.com evo 4g forum for a quick answer, I’ll see what I can dig up tomorrow, but even then it will be second hand

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    Thanks again Paul, I will keep reading and will ask some questions in xda, I will comment here if I have something new.

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  • ok, my assumption is you can root it as long as you’ve got a ROM that will work with those radios, but I would hate to be wrong and you end up with a stock EVO flashed to Sprint.

    I think even if you root the stock ROM you’re still going to need to change the kernel out with one that supports the network redirection / tethering… seems like it was called tun.ko but am probably wrong on this. Most 3rd party kernels support it.

    So, if you’re wanting to go that path, I’d suggest you find someone else who already did it – the XDA general thread may find you some more people. But, the steps are

    1) unlock (revolutionary or htcdev)
    2) install either clockworkmod or Amon Ra (better)
    3) make your first nandroid backup
    4) flash superuser binary from recovery
    5) install Superuser from the market
    6) install a kernel with tethering capability
    7) install wireless tether for root (google it, it’s probably not going to show in the market)

    but, if anything goes wrong, you might end up needing to take it to one of those “android devices flashed to boost mobile” places.

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  • Avatar of Lam Osca

    Hi Paul, I bought another phone for my wife, luckily it’s already rooted and tethering working, I will try to root the Evo that I have but first have to take care of a lot of things in the new house. Thanks again for everything, I will come back and post my advances when I continue with this.

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    hello my evo 4g just broke on me and im getting a new one. i was rooted before and am thinking about doing it again either with the 3d or 4g. but the major issue that i had was that unless i used a Kings rom i was never able to get 3g service only 1x. i tried everything that people wrote in about and now when the new phone gets here i am not sure if i want to go throught that again unless i can see how to make sure that i keep the 3g status and not get stuck with the stupid 1x. also i was having issues with my bluetooth getting connected. I like the team roms and want to be able to choose more roms not just the kings one that are great but i want a choice. please help

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    Honestly have never heard of that issue.What recovery were you using?

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    i was using the regular recovery from the phone. I was going in and clearing everything out like the rom said and then loaded it and was never able to get the 1x to go away. what is typepad html email?

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  • Avatar of soccernut78

    i was using the normal recovery on the phone but nothing special

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  • Nope, you were using either clockwork mod, Amon Ra, 4ext, twrp. If you were using the normal recovery, you wouldnt have been able to flash anything.

    Your recovery could be to blame / not flashing properly

    Sent from my Infected HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!

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  • When I am not at a computer I reply using an email client, sometimes it slaps type pad email at the top

    Sent from my Infected HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!

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  • Avatar of soccernut78

    ok i see ya i had clock work mod on my phone and that is what i used to flash the last one that didnt work. so when i root my phone for the first time what should i use. I hate that i cant use any of these roms and have to flash them and then see what i get and if its the 1x i have to do the whole thing over again

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    I had tons of problems with ClockworkMOD when I first started flashing. Since I moved on, never had the random issues that CWM left (such as not clearing dalvik when I wipe, incomplete flashing, etc)I’d advise anything but CWM and see how it goes.

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  • Avatar of soccernut78

    hey paul
    ok i just got my new 4g phone an i want to root it again. but am worried about the issues of the 1x instead of the 3g for data. anything you can tell me before i do this so i dont have any issues

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    I can tell you I never heard of anyone having this issue until yesterday when I saw two people had it and both were running ClockworkMod.What did you have before for recovery? That 1X/3G thing sounds just like a failed kernel install

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  • Avatar of soccernut78

    i had 3g. i was running the kings unleashed r6. i went through did data wipe and flashed rom. after doing the nanoid back up. it has been like this every time i do a different rom besides the kings ones. but now with the brand new phone i was going to do it just dont want to have any issues and make sure its all set up right before i flash

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  • Avatar of soccernut78

    hey King
    after much thought i went and got the 3d phone from EVO. Now im looking at rooting it. saw all the stuff that i need to download and am going to try this week to get it done. only issue that I have is that i am not able to download all the items that i need to root the phone. also it says to pre or soft root then do a full root. is that required? you have been a ton of help and am looking for a little guidance on this

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    hey king
    i really need your help. I want to root my 3d evo and my laptop wont allow me to download the sdk file what do i do

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  • It won’t allow you to download it? Which one are you attempting to get?

    If you’re referring to the Java JDK as a note, might want to download the 32 bit one even if you have 64 bit as the 64 does not work…

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    ok it wouldnt let me do it on my lap top but i got it done on the other computer. so hopefully it will work out and i dont brick the 3d the 4g was so much easier to root. do you recommend any web site to follow instructions to root the 3d over any other one

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  • Hey Paul,
    Great info. I have been wanting to do this for a while. In the interim I set up the ice cream sandwich that runs over my 2.2 for fun. Since, I have tried a few 1 click programs that have not worked. Would you give me some advice on how to do this successfully, or where to go to root. please.

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  • I have the 4G htc evo. I failed to mention that if it matters.

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  • I want to do this but am a little worried I won’t be able to pull this off. My only computer is a MacBook Pro. Will this work using a Mac? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated

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    • Avatar of Paul E King

      You can root your phone using pretty much any computer, however the one-click methods seem to only work on linux or Windows.

      I don’t have a mac so I can’t tell you what hoops you’d need to jump through to get it to work, but I’ve heard some people have used Paralells to get it to work

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    Would lie to room my. HTC evo 4G any web sites you recommend, and what apps I should absolutely have. There are so much out there. Any input would be grateful. Ricardo

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    Would root my HTC evo 4G phone. any web sites you recommend, and what apps I should absolutely have. There are so much out there. Any input would be grateful. Ricardo

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    • Avatar of Paul E King

      up in the “goodandevo” pulldown on this site, look up EVO ROOT, should have a decent list of what’s available to root the 4G

      Root tools: Titanium Backup, WiFi tether for root, SuperSU (it has more options than Superuser), basically whatever you want you can run, I advise getting Google Now!

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  • I need help getting my phone back to how.it was.before I updated it. Now.my home.screen looks.all different and the WiFi sucks at most places. What do I do?? Do I downgrade it ?? Root it ??? Idk ?? :(

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  • Does anyone know how to downgrade from 2.89… I need step by step because all my settings changed and WiFi sucks anyone email me if u know please … [email protected] . Thank u

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