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I am unexpectedly the owner of a Sprint Galaxy Note 8, day 1

Galaxy Note 8What happened to the HTC 10?

My HTC 10 had a bad battery. It died right out of warranty, or not died so much as the camera started streaking at 20% and the battery would die at 15. Two weeks ago it was at 26% the phone would die at, and today it was 42%. It also got hot all the time.

I couldn’t sent it to HTC and wait for their repairs, I needed it fixed now. Unfortunately I didn’t have a backup phone capable of doing what was needed (wife’s in possession of my M9, M8 I forget what happened to it, M7 water fried, EVO 4G LTE evidently has passed on – can’t get anything other than a charge light, anything prior not nearly fast enough) so I went to a local store that said they could fix it.

I’d checked with several other stores via a Yelp request a quote thing, got back a lot of negatories on fixing it, had one guy call me up and tell me he would fix any other phone, but that what was going to happen with his crew was they would replace the battery and the digitizer or LCD would be broken and that was always the case.

Finally had a company say they were interested, had never had a failure like the above, and I talked with them. Battery arrived and I got down there after making a nandroid, guy got the battery out over the course of about 30 minutes peeling the HTC 10 away layer by layer, removed the battery with the skill of a surgeon, placed the whole thing back slowly and the LCD was broken, but the digitizer worked perfectedly. So yeah.

We’ll see what happens in a couple of days when the display shows up.

An HTC man goes to Samsung

After having been on HTC products since a Windows phone, through the EVOs, and up the an HTC 10, I’m going to just describe the issues I’ve run into on this Samsung. This phone is blazing fast, however Sprint and Samsung have managed to over-app the thing to the point of absurdity.

Installing Netflix? Oh we’ve got an app that will help with that video. Installing a game? Oh here’s another app that will assist with the apps you’ve got. Want to install Chrome Beta? Oh here have the Sprint homepage set for you.

About your voicemail, let’s try and sell you Sprint’s Visual Voicemail. Connected to a WiFi? Oh it’s insecure and now we want to sell you an app to make it secure (a VPN.) Like getting calls do you? How about you subscribe to our anti-spam subscription service?

Over the course of two hours that I attempted to rebuild on this Note 8 I was hit by an advertisement probably every 10 minutes for another service that had been preinstalled either by Samsung, or by Sprint. Not having access to a stock Samsung I can’t say where one company’s ads ended and another begin.

A quick list of what’s installed on the Sprint Note 8

(that Paul thinks is bloatware)

  • Lookout Antivirus
  • NextRadio
  • App Spotlight
  • 1Weather
  • AAA (the auto agency)
  • Uber
  • Amazon Kindle
  • Prime Photos
  • Audiobooks
  • Amazon Music
  • Amazon Shopping
  • Prime Video
  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • FB Messenger
  • Sprint Caller ID/voicemail/spot/backup/secure wifi/tech expert/worldwide/cloud binder/music plus
  • Tidal
  • Google Duo (I didn’t want it, why’s it a system app?)
  • Rolling widget ads for Hulu, various games, hbo now, letitgo, candy crush Final fantsy, DFNDR

This probably doesn’t include the popups for Bixby, the various services to make the video look better.

I mean where else can someone drop … what are these things running at? $1000 or so and have advertising and bloatware crammed down their throats.

I started by removing Lookout as, well, it’s garbage in my opinion. Yup, you can remove this garbage without root. That’s all I have kilt as of this writing.

Initial impressions

Holy hell it’s fast. Scored a 171200 on Antutu, which is slower than the HTC U 11 (~174K) we had for a while scored but feels faster.

All the advertising spam on Sprint is making it a huge turn off.

Didn’t think I was going to particularly be impressed by the screen but dang.

Huh, managed to get it the same day that Knox was defeated by a root method. That’s cool.

Low light photos look like garbage. I’m reading this is not supposed to be so so I’ll check the settings tomorrow. I think the resolution is set wrong.

Pictures, getting rid of the bloat without root, and reviews to come.

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Paul E King

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6 thoughts on “I am unexpectedly the owner of a Sprint Galaxy Note 8, day 1

  • So you just have the Note 8 until your HTC 10 gets fixed? Or is that your new phone and the 10 will be a backup?

    I went the Note 5 bandwagon after my M8. Which was the previous to the Note 7 fiasco. Had it maybe 18 months. The bloatware sucks! Though some of those apps you listed are ones I used anyway.

    I really liked the device and the s-pen was fun and handy on occasion but the software and whole knox/root stuff was a major pain. I loved Samsung Pay but eventually gave in and tripped Knox for root and roms.

    Can’t argue with the beauty of the latest 8 series (8/8+/Note). Love the look of the LG v30 too.

    I too have an HTC 10 that I got 3-4 months ago after I cracked my Note 5 screen and Sprint was selling the 10s for $240. Great phone though a bit small after my Note 5.

    I ordered a Pixel 2 XL coming late next week. I want something I can root without all the bloat and a bit bigger. First to get Android versions will be awesome. Pretty sure I will miss out on Wifi calling and HD calling features since it’s not a native Sprint phone but oh well. Not in love with the look but I like it enough. Software makes up for it.

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    • It will probably be my phone for a while. I have been getting rid of the bloatware system apps since that doesn’t require root. Goodbye lookout (package manager uninstall) goodbye Sprint WiFi secure connection (app info, uninstall), Goodbye moon.

      I’m going to wait on any more straight Google products. I saw too many people burned by the Pixel (not literally,) and my experiences with the Nexus 9 have really left a bad taste in my mouth. Going to stop being their beta tester for a little while and see if I want to hurl my devices through a window every other day.

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      • So much for the “GoodAndEvo” HTC centered site. :-)

        Understandable about Google devices. I have a Nexus 9 (and daughter my old Nexus 7) but got the 9 well after the problems. I use it pretty much every night without issue.

        I know there was some BT issues with the 2016 pixel though I’d sure hope there won’t be this time around since they got rid of the headphone jack and are pushing their own BT headphones. I guess we’ll see. I do have 15 days to return after I get it I guess.

        I’d be super interested in the HTC U11+, https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-ocean-master-htc-u11-plus-leak/, that’s been rumored though at this point it’s just a rumor and probably won’t be anything more than for a while.

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        • HTC devices aren’t leaving the site! My HTC10 and HTCM8 still get used regularly in testing for various products(And I still use the HTC10 as my daily driver)

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        • I still have good relations with HTC PR so chances are there’ll still be quite a bit of coverage. Also wife will most likely be getting my 10 if they can bring it back from the dead.

          Plus there hasn’t really been all that much HTC specific stuff that I’ve covered lately. The occasional ROM, HTC flirting with bankruptcy, etc. Nothing’s really changed. Android is Android… even this Samsung Note 8 is not particularly different.

          I mean there’s a little less HTC specific root stuff that’ll be covered unless a dev comes to me to promote it (which they’re welcome to do) but I don’t see this changing much. This Samsung is the same as my 10 more or less under the hood.

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  • Avatar of Forrest Chang

    Please keep up w/the HTC vs Samsung experience. I just went back to HTC, HTC Evo original-> Samsung Galaxy S3 -> Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (still the best hardware combo, imo, replaceable battery, replaceable SD card, headhphone jack, stylus, IR blaster, hardware home button — I used every one of those things) – HTC U11. I highly under utilized the stylus, so I only miss it a bit, for my uses losing the headphone jack is pretty much the worst thing ever (someday a pent up but highly detailed blog post rant will emerge) — Apple has won, we’ll have to pay premium for everyday features. Otherwise more or less happy the the U11 – I still pine for that experience of “how awesome is this Evo” — I think it’s all incremental. If in a few years Samsung and LG still have headphone jacks, I might have to switch back

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